A super special conversation has been realized in the latest issue of “Number” (No. 1148)! Germany in 2006 and 2026. Defeat to Brazil, the world’s highest mountain, was a timeless refrain. How has the past 20 years of Japanese soccer changed the pain of that defeat? Despite his improved tactics and accumulated experience in Europe, he was still one step away from reaching his goal. The solitary pioneer Hidetoshi Nakata and the modern speedster Junya Ito. “20 years of evolution” that has changed dramatically, and “the essence of the world’s walls” that remains unchanged over time. By intertwining the thoughts of two charismatic figures from two eras, we learn the true current status of Japanese soccer’s blueprint of being the best in the world. Photos Please see the Bungeishunju article below. ◆Number1148 issue https://amzn.asia/d/08TArQL5 ◆NumberPREMIER (electronic version) https://number.bunshun.jp/premier/articles/19772?promo_code=NPTU2025MA ◆Click here to join Number PREMIER https://number.bunshun.jp/premier
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